Ed and his crew were interested in catching a sail so we started at Conch with our ballyhoos out waiting for a bite. After a hour of nothing and seeing no one else hook-up, we headed up to pickles reef. Caught a couple muttons and a couple kingfish fought a really good fish for awhile before it went away and then moved on to a couple vermillon spots. The vermillons bit OK but they were small although we did catch a nice red grouper while catching verms. That was about it for this day and we will be out with this group again tomorrow but with a different game plan.